Pharmacists started sodas. We started them right. We had cocaine in them and alcohol and now look at it. There are more health complaints now with sodas, but there are. So today we're gonna look into sodas. Are they good? Are they bad? Should we be drinking them or is the hype about the danger really not something we need to worry about? My name is Phil Cowley. This is Take Your Medicine Podcast. We talk everything pharmacy and today we're gonna talk old school pharmacy. 

So John Pemberton made Coca-Cola and Coca-Cola is huge. It changed everything but really the whole story started way before that. 1976, soda was first found and soda water was touted as like the cure-all for everything and even today we're finding benefits of drinking the bubbles that make us feel so good. We all love the bubbles for some reason. It helps with digestion and it's been proven to help reduce how much you eat the bubbles by itself. back in 1767, man by the name of Priestley found these bubbles and was able to generate them artificially. That set off a whole boom of different new products coming out, but it wasn't until about a hundred years later when Johan Schweppe was the first one to be able to manufacture it on a regular basis. Now that whole story with Schweppe's soda is hugely interesting becauseYou would think they'd be super rich because they've been around for so long. Totally got ripped off by a partner. The son tried to take it back. It's like a really bad documentary. But we move forward pretty quickly to a guy by the name of White. He lived in England. He started making ginger beer inside of the wheelbarrow. Like you roll it down the street and people bought it so much that it got bigger and bigger. By this point, the first commercially available
soda drink that was out was a lemonade that was bubbly. And White then made this huge empire. During World War I, half of the horses and half of the wagons they pulled actually were because of White's organization had given England all of these resources. So as soda goes, we wouldn't have won World War I without having soda pop. But then things started to take off here in America. And there were two people

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who were huge here. The first one's Charles Alderson. Now, he's the one that made up Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper's recipe is like insanely interesting. There is a recipe that is on eBay right now for just an incredible amount of money that they found on a shelf in a pharmacy way back. Way back it was written. Dr. Pepper swears it's not the real recipe, but of course that's what I would say too. They say the real recipe is held in two separate lock boxes and one person
has half and the other person has the other half, never crossing over. But we do know from the FDA that it's not a fruit drink and it's not made from the colon. In fact, they call it a pepper soda. They think that originally it was made for somebody who has dyspepsia or a hard time drinking anything without getting upset to their stomach. But what we do know is Dr. Pepper now is the number two biggest soda inside the United States. And speaking of the United States, did you know that we drink 49 gallons a year?
soda on average. just 10 years ago it was 10 gallons and we're up to 49 gallons. So this industry is popping. It's a great place to be and there are so many new sodas out there but let's jump back to John Pemberton because his story is the best. John Pemberton was a pharmacist as you know and Charles Alderson who made Dr. Pepper he's a pharmacist too. John Alderson John Pemberton was a pharmacist
and he worked with a lot of the Civil War veterans. In fact, he was a doctor during the Civil War. And the best thing they ever did for anybody who got shot in the Civil War was just give them morphine and more morphine and more morphine because we didn't have antibiotics, they had a ton of pain. Well, huge surprise. War's over and they've got a few addicts. In order to get off that addiction, John Pemberton made something called the Pemberton Wine. Now this wine put
which had a ton of caffeine in it, a little bit of cocaine, which, hey, you know, we're moving from heroin and morphine over to cocaine, which is a positive move, and then alcohol in it as well. Well, prohibition came around, and he moved away from using the wine in it anymore and just moved to the cola nut and soda water. That was really the birth of all sodas. It was actually prohibition. Everybody was looking for something new to drink.

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because they were tired of alcohol. Kind of sounds like now. mean, the new dry movement's out there, so everybody's looking for mocktails, and we're seeing a resurgence of new sodas coming up. Soda shacks on every corner, mixes of all sorts, whole bars dedicated to it, right? So back in those days, John Pepperton's time had the exact same thing going on, and Coca-Cola exploded across the United States. They did remove the caffeine pretty quickly, and the cocaine pretty quickly, and of course, the alcohol was gone.
But the high levels of sugar and the high levels of caffeine were still in it. And people loved it. It spread like crazy. Well in 1904, Dr. Pepper was now on the scene. It was during a huge event they released Dr. Pepper and now there was real competition. Pepsi-Cola followed really quickly. And next thing you know, people were drinking highly caffeinated sugar beverages because they couldn't drink alcohol.
Well, this never went away. In fact, one of the most interesting stories is 7-Up. So 7-Up came out in 1929. And when they released 7-Up, it came out the same way that the first two, Dr. Pepper and Coca-Cola came out with what they called patented medicines. So at the time, what would happen is pharmacists would be able to make a recipe and get a patent on it, then nobody else could use it and they were getting insanely rich from it. Sounds like today with big pharma, right? Find something patented, make a lot of money.
Same thing back in those days. So 7up had this brilliant idea. Let's add lithium to a beverage and then we can sell it to people because they can't drink and we just had the whole stock market crash including the Great Depression.

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So Charles Griggs came up with this lithium-ated beverage that was lemon-lime. And the very first logo they put out there was seven with wings. And so it would fly, making you say you wouldn't be sad anymore. Well, people drank it and they did get enough lithium to balance their mood and they did feel better. Just a few years later, the FDA said, no, you can't do that. You've got to lower the amount of lithium.
And then after they lowered the lithium, it got low enough to where they actually say they couldn't call it lithiumated anymore. So 7-Up got rid of it, but it had established. Well now we move forward. We move forward not a little while. We go forward a hundred years. A hundred years in the future. Now in 1996, for the first time, we decided maybe we should look at are there problems with soda? And great surprise to everyone.
anybody who drank a lot of sodas ended up having higher levels of diabetes, heart attacks, and overall obesity. Which shouldn't be a shock because at that point, do you remember the 7-Up huge mugs that were 64 ounces? They were like seriously bigger than like they were so huge they would carry them around in these monstrous mugs and we're almost back there anyway. I mean it was the biggest thing ever. You would fill it all the way up. I watched people drink that three times a day. I can't even imagine the amount of sugar that they were getting.
Well, in 1996 they decided, wait a minute, there's a problem here. 1999 they started looking at kids, seeing obesity rates and how much soda they drank were tied hand in hand. So then, this is the really interesting one. It took until 2019 for them to start looking to see if there were higher rates of heart attacks and strokes. Now they looked at this because what we did,
1990s we decided sugar was bad so we automatically jumped over to all these diet sodas and they had started them earlier than that. Diet Coke was like the biggest thing ever. Remember in junior high the kids that could afford Diet Coke and get a hold of it they were like the coolest kids because it was just new and we had Tab. Oh Tab was good too. It was like one calorie and they were moving to all of these lower calorie type sodas but they hadn't really studied it.

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Well, in 2019, they looked at the study and they noticed that there were higher levels of stroke in people that were drinking artificial sweeteners. And so now we look at the whole thing and the question has to be for everybody who's listening is, is my soda good to drink? Well, one thing to keep in mind is almost every study where they compare soda, it's to people who drink soda versus people who drink water.
you're always gonna lose. Water is gonna be the very best thing you can always drink. But really, how bad is soda? Let's break down the most toxic ingredients that you can get inside of soda. So we're gonna start at the number one, the one I hate the most. We're gonna go with BPA. So BPA looks like part of estrogen and it blocks it like halfway through. So we're making estrogen, things are clicking along and all of sudden BPA comes in and it binds in there. And because we see early menstruation in women,
Like earlier and earlier for those that drink a lot of BPA. Now BPA is also found in your makeup, a lot of your perfumes. They're trying to remove it from everything, but BPA was just immensely found in high levels of soda. But the other thing it does, and man, now this is gonna be the fun part for everybody, for all those guys sitting around playing games, drinking copious amounts of soda, their sperm rates are now being seen that their sperm motility rates are almost 30 % lower.
than their predecessors or people that don't do it. So we're essentially taking the gamers out of all of evolution. So you're just not going to produce as many gamers theoretically. It may take like what? 12 generations, but the more you sit and play games and drink Mountain Dew, the less likely you are to have kids. And that's because BPA blocks the way that we produce testosterone too. So this BPA that looks like estrogen and kind of just gets in the way, boom, number one ingredient that I would tell you that I would want to get rid of.
My second one comes in the drink that I drink the most. So personally, I drink sodas and my soda of choice. I take a diet Mountain Dew, I add coconut and pineapple and then fresh lime to it because of course if I put one fruit in it, I'm gonna be more healthy, right? Mountain Dew has high levels of hydrogenated bromine. Bromine is just a simple chemical.

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But at high levels of bromine, we start to see nerve damages. And when we hydrogenate it, that means we hook on something to it so we can get inside of our nerves better. becomes hydrophobic, hydrophilic means it likes to get inside the, it gets in lipophilic. It means it likes to get into things like myelin sheaths in our brains. It likes to get into our thyroid. It likes to get into again, our testicles and our ovaries. It likes to hide in there and high levels of bromine have led to things like tinnitus.
which is your ears ringing all the time. It also changes the way your thyroid works and muscle nerve contraction. So people get weird muscle nerve things. A lot of people who drink a lot of sodas, you'll see them and they'll cramp up a lot. Especially people who drink a lot of hydrogenated bromine. In other countries they've taken it out, but here in the United States we haven't as of yet. The reason why they put it into sodas is because if you look at sodas here in the United States, we have a very homogenous, it looks very simple, it's always super pretty.
Elsewhere you kind of have to shake it just a little bit because it won't hold that color and solution So the idea that we need to have red five and yellow three and we want it to be the same all the way through is the reason why we put in the hydrogen-aged bromine Again, this wasn't a huge problem. We were drinking ten gallons a year, but at 49 gallons a year We're starting to see more and more neurological issues that come along with it high fructose corn syrup
So this is a cool, this is like a cool story. I don't know if you've ever looked back on the story. So the corn industry, like there, it's a huge like mafia type situation because it's just a cabal. They, they own everything and they were trying to force their way into every aspect of our lives. So they pushed out sugars and put in high fructose corn syrup. Now it's good for the beverage companies because it can hold for longer and the stability is good. So then the soda lasts longer. You can put a better expiration date on it. It's bad for humans.
because the form that you have on the high fructose corn syrup sticks in our system in a way that we release our insulin completely different. It actually causes higher spikes to stay longer in our blood sugars, which means we're releasing more insulin. But because it's not truly higher amounts of sugar, we end up having higher levels of type two diabetes. So when we move back to corn, when we move back to the cane sugar that we had initially, we actually see a healthier mix.

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but high fructose corn syrup is so easy for the Pepsi Cola or the Coca Cola companies to use, they continue to use it. Now, another ingredient to watch out for, benzoate. So sodium benzoate has been linked at high levels to higher rates of depression and anxiety. And that's because that benzoate salt changes the way we process some of our neurotransmitters. But it also hides in our kidneys and liver. So that's where we start seeing higher risks of kidney and liver failure and cancers evolved.
then we're gonna totally get into the artificial versus real sugar thing in just a minute. The final one I wanna bring up is phosphoric acid. So anybody who gets kidney stones already knows that dark colas are not good for them. And the more phosphoric acid you have, usually the darker the cola is. Well, what this does is this removes calcium from your bone and puts it in the bloodstream, which then leads to higher rates of kidney stones because that calcium has to go someplace. But it also increases rates of gout.
and osteoporosis. In fact, women who regularly drink diet coke, their osteoporosis rates are almost double the people who don't, the women who don't drink it. And that has a lot to do with this phosphoric acid. Phosphorous, magnesium, calcium all play together on how we pack our bones as full as we can or if we remove the calcium from our bones. So phosphoric acid is one of the things you have to watch out
Those seven ingredients, including the artificial sweeteners, are the ones you want to watch out for. So let's go into the difference between diet and regular soda. All right, so diet soda. They did a big study in 2023 and they showed it had like 106,000 people in it too. And they showed people who drank diet sodas were almost twice the risk to have type 2 diabetes within 10 years and blood sugars and triglycerides jumped up.
We believed that if you had a diet soda that didn't have the sugar that we were going to be okay. Well, this study proved that's not the case. We're seeing almost the same rates of type 2 diabetes. I say almost because we got to get into that. But the other thing we find is that almost every type of artificial sweetener that you use all has negative side effects. So I said I would come back to this, but negative side effects that come from each one of the different

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sweeteners are all different. So we're going to start with aspartame. Now that's the original NutraSweet. Aspartame breaks down to phenylalanine as well as aspartic acid. Aspartic acid then moves to aspartate. Now aspartate can work like a neurotransmitter in somebody's brain. It's funny when you talk to somebody who loves their NutraSweet. Most of them have higher levels of ADD. Aspartate
works a lot like glutamate inside of our brain, which means it gives it a little extra stimulation. So people who are higher levels who need more stimulants, such as your ADD people, they love aspartate over regular sugar. They can't stand the sugary because they don't get any of the effects. And that's because it's not the caffeine alone, but the caffeine with the aspartate. However, aspartane at high levels. Now we've got to talk about these high levels.
When the WHO looked at levels of aspartame to say what level is safe in women that have pregnancy, this is like kind of killer to me. They did like 12 cans a day as being the level that was too much, where 11 was fine. That's kind of insane to me because that's like seriously back to those 7-11 jugs of 64 ounces. So it is an
Awesome idea to think that they actually had people out there enough people out there to test that up when you were able to move forward and they stayed at the 12 cans a day they found that those Women who had that way they were pregnant had higher rates of birth defects The very first study that they did was with rats and they gave rats their body weight in NutriSweet I can't think of anything you can eat in your body weight that wouldn't cause some sort of
birth defects. So aspartame, we know at high levels our bodies start to do weird things. The other thing we know about aspartame is it changes the way the gut bacteria acts. So the bacteria in our bodies, we're now learning more and more. For example, we now know that if you've got the higher levels of E. coli, you have higher levels of inflammation. That means your rheumatoid arthritis, your osteoarthritis. It means that your muscles, aches and pains

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we know that your gut bacteria can completely change it. Where there are other types, which are in the Bactroide families, like Acromansia, the more of that that we have, the less inflammation we have. And that's because the gut bacteria still sends out the same inflammatory type markers as our bodies do. They're eukaryotic cells. When they decide to talk to each other, it's the same way that our eukaryotic cells try to talk to each other. And because of that, when you drink high levels of artificial sweeteners, you have to have like the
as bacteria in them. The ones that aren't tough, they're looking for sugar. They think they find sugar because you give them Nutrisweet, it's not, they die, but then the weed next to them starts to grow. So we're finding huge changes in gut bacteria and because of that we're seeing changes in the way that we see food and how we act towards food. GLP ones are a huge medication that are out right now. Glucon-like peptide, they're huge and then now there's GIP and even glucagon.
What we find is people who drink high levels of NutraSweet end up having really messed up relationships with food because their body thinks they're getting sugar and so it tries to respond like they're getting sugar but then nothing happens. And because then nothing's happening then they change the way that they're doing. Meaning that in the long run you make it so in order to be satiated or feel like you have enough food you actually have to eat more sugar because you down-regulated the way that your brain perceives sugar.
So there's this whole complex relationship. Now of course, here in the United States our answer was let's just give them a GLP-1. I'm telling right now there is such a complex relationship there that's not a great thing. Again, remember I told you I drink Mountain Dew and it's diet Mountain Dew that I move to too. So this unhealthy relationship is one that I'm sharing along with everybody else. So a couple of the other artificial sweeteners, because I want you to take that and put it aside, because I still would rather have you do that.
than anything else, than sugar itself. The other one's erythritol. So this is the other one I wanna dive into. So this one is a fairly new, it's the one that you find in anything that says zero in monsters. So Coke zero, Sprite zero, anything zero uses erythritol. So this is a type of sugar, but it's kind of very sticky into it. From a chemist standpoint, it looks like, I don't know, like a sticky weed. And so what ends up happening with this one is it grabs onto things. Our stroke risk goes up by almost 20 % when we drink.

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more than one beverage a day that's got the erythritol in it. I can't believe it's still on the market. I used to drink zero drinks, like I used to love them, and now I can't do it because the first thing I notice is that I started having ringing in my ears. So I started looking up and that microvascular effects of erythritol can be seen within two beverages. So go back to your NutraSweet, even after all I said, because it doesn't have nearly the high risk that you do with strokes.
Now finally, you have things like, oh I don't know, there's like six other sweeteners that are out there. Stevia's out there now, chicory root's out there now. Some of these are probably better for you, but because they have from, they come from an organic source. Now the one thing about chicory root is, is that chicory root grabs water from the outside and moves it to the inside. So it tastes sweet, but if you were to drink 12 beverages of that, I guarantee you would clean your system out top to bottom.
These are starting to lean into more more safe. This is what you find in like the poppies. Anything that says it's prebiotic, it's got chicory root into it. I do like chicory root, but there is no way you can put down a lot of chicory root without it just messing up your stomach, 100%. Now, the other thing about NutraSweet or any of the other artificial flavors, we thought we would see a decrease in weight. People that drink regular soda with sugar versus sodas that have a lot of NutraSweets in them, we thought NutraSweet would win. There's less calories, right?
What we're actually finding is the weight gain isn't really changed from one to the other. This goes back to the idea that you've changed your relationship with food. Your brain thought it was getting sugar and so it started reacting properly the first few months. But now that you drink it all the time, it knows sometimes I get sugar and sometimes I don't get sugar and because of it, I have to work harder. So I'm to tell them to eat more and more and more. So satiation becomes a huge deal for people that take a lot of beverages that have artificial sweeteners.
Also, inflammation. We find people that drink artificial flavors, artificial sugars, actually have higher levels of inflammation. Now, that goes back to the fact you changed your gut, right? That gut bacteria has now changed, so you hurt more often. But, that all being said, I'd much rather have someone drink a diet soda than I would the regular soda. First of all, diabetes, type 2 diabetes is monstrously high. Number 2.

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you're adding a ton of sugar. I mean, an incredible amount of sugar. I don't need to go into it because you've been told this so many times. Tooth decay is higher in people that drink sugary sodas, even though they both have higher levels of tooth decay. And finally, this is the part where I really want to come home with it, is the fact that you're changing your relationship with sugar. So sugar normally hits this part of our brain called the mesolimbatic, meso...

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limbic system. The mesolimbic system is in our brain and it's way old. It's back way, way, way back. And what our great ancestors did is they'd find something that had sugar in it. We would eat it and it would release dopamine. Dopamine is the drive neurotransmitter. It makes us want to do something. And the more that you release that drive motivator, it takes a shorter and shorter course. So if you know you sip on that straw,
and you get sugar, your brain says sip on the straw. It's like learning a sight word. When you get stressed, you're like, where's the straw? When you're having a bad day, where's the straw? When you're tired, where's the straw? You'll start to, you'll create this pathway. Our brains make highways. They're just in harder and harder and harder. So we search for it more and more. Sugar releases more dopamine than the artificial sweeteners do. So you become more and more needing that on a regular basis.
If you don't believe me, just cut out sugar all by itself for a day and see how hard it is to reestablish that pathway. Now there are some tricks to doing that and we'll do another podcast on how we do that. The other thing you have to understand is that the more sugar that we have, the more that we set that we have our GABA, which is the system we have in place to settle everything down. If dopamine drives us, GABA slows us down. Now, because we drink so much sugar, what we find is the GABA receptors start to get
overworked. We have so much dopamine going through us because we drink sugar all day long. Just disappear, just disappear, just disappear. The GABA tries to slow it down and it just cannot keep up with it. Because of that, now you're going to have problems sleeping and settling down. That's the reason why your anxiety and depression get way worse is because you cannot settle down because your body needs that constant reinsurance. So it takes a long time to start back up on that GABA. It also increases stress response.
So that stress response when you take away something that was producing your dopamine, your body says, uh-oh, where'd that go? And so you start having fight or flight type feelings. So, and my favorite one of all is that the more sugar you consume, the worse your memory is. So hippocampus creates our memories. And we know, especially in children that use high levels of sugar, we see that their memory focus goes clear down. So it's kind of crazy. So I still would say if you're going to drink soda, I would drink the

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the ones that artificial sweeteners in them and probably stevia and those ones are probably better than anything else over the sugary ones but they both have their downside. Now I want to move to caffeine because this is the one people always want to know about. So caffeine is good and bad. So caffeine looks and acts like this stuff in our body called adenosine. Now adenosine, there's two types of receptors in adenosine one and in adenosine two. Now when adenosine is stimulated,
We relax. We actually increase blood flow and we slow down all of our processes. We were made to be relaxed and tired. We were made for a siesta at 10 a.m. If you got up at 7, it's time for a nap at 10 a.m. But our bodies, our society doesn't allow for it. So when we use caffeine, it hits the adenosine receptors and it blocks it.
it can't get into the parking space. It's the guy that's got the cyber truck who took up four places so you can't park there but didn't really do anything, just park there. So once that's parked into place, we can't stimulate the adenosine receptor and because we can't park in that place, we can't get into the store to do all of the work we need to. In this case it is to settle us down and the other thing it does is it actually slows down with the alpha-2 receptors
It tells us, you don't need more drive. Remember, dopamine is our drive, right? So it actually gets in the way. So the guy trying to deliver the dopamine cannot get in because there's a cyber truck parked in his place. So he just leaves, which means that the dopamine that we have, though it keeps going and going and going because he can't go pick up that dopamine. So you cannot remove it. That dopamine keeps going and going, even though it's time to form to be picked up because the dopamine is can't be picked up. He's the guy who's in the way. So.
That gives us that drive throughout the day. But that dopamine is still the same stuff that we become addicted to. We love dopamine. So now that the caffeine goes in there, blocks the adenosine too, so we can't remove the dopamine from the situation, now the dopamine stays around longer, which means we now attribute drinking caffeine to having more dopamine, and that becomes a cycle where we become more more addicted to it. But let's put it in perspective here for a minute.

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Inside the United States, the average American right now consumes between 200 and 300 milligrams a day. In fact, it leans closer to 300 milligrams a day. Your average soda, if you get something that's 44 ounce, right? 44 ounce will give you about 70 milligrams of caffeine. If you look at like a Celsius drink or a coffee, they're gonna be double, almost triple that with every single drink.
So when I grab a 44 ounce Mountain Dew and I drink it throughout the day, my caffeine intake is substantially lower than the rest of the world. Norway and Sweden are the highest, but I'm sure it has something to do with the sunlight up there. They're like way high. In fact, inside the United States, there are 20 % of the population that takes 600 milligrams of caffeine. Now, caffeine at lower levels is cool. It reduces how hungry you are, increases your metabolism, actually helps us absorb
Tylenol and aspirin. It reduces your diabetes risk. It reduces Parkinson's risk. It does all this cool stuff. But once we push it too high, because caffeine is blocking that vasodilation, which means our veins are getting bigger and they're getting smaller, now all of a sudden we start having problems with coronary artery problems, heart attack risks, strokes. When your fingers are numb, you've had too much. When they get cold, you've had too much caffeine because we've shrunk the vessel so much now it's become
systemic throughout our whole body. It's not just our brain that has those receptors, it's our whole body. Now, adenosine also allows for glutamate, which is a stimulation, to go through our brain better. So we block adenosine, more glutamate, more glutamate, more stimulation, which is why our brains work. At lower levels, underneath 200 milligrams, we find that it helps concentration and learning. helps for us to retain. But once we hit some place in the 400 milligrams, it does the other thing because it kicks in our fight or flight system.
When we block our relaxation system, because remember, we block adenosine, so we can't relax, fight or flight kicks in, and once we kick in fight or flight, well then, now all of sudden we don't remember things, we don't get anything accomplished, although you're moving more, you're getting nothing done. So, when we talk about sodas, which have been around forever, as a pharmacist, I have huge opinions about it. That if I come down to the crux of the whole thing, my idea is this.

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Maybe we don't need 49 gallons of it. I mean, it seems to me, seems to me that a 32 ounce drink one time a day is just great. You get 70, 80 milligrams of caffeine. You're gonna be able to take it all day long. You get a little bit, it's fine. I think the problem that we've come to is that this will become a great surprise to everybody. Humans aren't good at moderation. We're just not great at moderation. So, so does come a long way.
Huge way, I'm still going to be drinking mine. I do wish Mountain Dew would take out their hydrogenated bromine from it, because that's the one I really wish we didn't have. I don't care if the color's not normal. Oh, and by the way, let's not even get into the coloring aspect of things. I don't know why it needs to be yellow. I'm still a big fan of Pepsi Clear. I wish I could buy one today. Oh, right now. For all of you that are old enough to do that. But that's the story on soda. So next time you pull up to get your drink, whatever it is you decide.
You have to first think, is coffee actually better for me? I don't know, I can argue on that one too. mean, your rates of gastric reflux, caffeine levels, and sleep disturbances are substantially higher in your coffee than they ever would be in sodas. So now, which one's better? I think that it all depends on the quantity that you take and how frequent. My name's Philip Cowley. This is Take Your Medicine Podcast. Of course, you're gonna share this with your friends and you're gonna give me a follow. And most of all,
You're gonna just do what you want because my job here is to teach you everything pharmacy and you get to make the decisions. Thank you for listening and we will be back next week.